Увидев Джонни на обложке... в журналах, газетах, купить, или не купить? ;) Опции

[Анна]

Мопсик
Правильно, что не стала. А на скан посмотреть можно.

[Настя]

Molly
Хмммм, а я почему-то всегда считала, что Rolling Stone - дорогой журнал.

Анна
Да, за скан спасибо! Он не повредит, естественно!

[Molly]

Мопсик
А я вообще об этом журнале впервые слышу...

Впечатления: очень грубый язык перевода. Можно было подобрать слова и помягче.

Для страждущих небольшие выдержки:
"Поначалу я соглашался на роли в кино, чтобы заработать на раскрутку своей группы. Сейчас мне сорок три, а я до сих пор чувствую себя неловко, когда меня называют звездой. Все смотрят на меня, это так глупо".
"Говорят, что, когда фильм ("Донни Браско") уже был закончен, Пачино сказал: "Наконец-то Депп сыграл человека". Я был очень удивлен: "Кем же тогда были остальные мои герои?"

[Анна]

Molly
Эта статья?
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/107..._last_buccaneer

У нас с русским Роллингом старые счёты. Переводчики там отвратные.

Я выложу английский текст здесь, что б не потерять.

The Last Buccaneer
On the path to Hollywood glory, Johnny Depp veered off course. So how did he tame his wild ways to become one of the world's most bankable leading men?
By MARK BINELLI


On a recent summer afternoon, Johnny Depp walks into a luxury suite at the Chateau Marmont in Los Angeles. Oddly, he is dressed like a pirate. A faded paisley do-rag is tied around his head. Smaller strips of cloth are braided into his hair, and he has gold caps on several teeth. His loose white T-shirt, with its blue horizontal stripes, may be more sailor than pirate, but it's definitely in the nautical family.

We should note that Depp has not come directly from the set of his latest film, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, where he will reprise the role of flamboyant pirate captain Jack Sparrow. Nor has he come from the cover shoot for this magazine. When I mention this fact to Gore Verbinski, the director of both Pirates movies and a third installment already in the works, he professes no surprise. "That's the Johnny I know," Verbinski tells me. "He's always half-Jack." Depp says, "With all of my characters, it's just depressing to leave them. With Captain Jack, when we finished shooting the first movie, I had a feeling I'd see him again. I didn't feel like I was saying goodbye. By the end of the third movie, I'm sure that's going to be a different story. But it's always really hard."

At forty-three, Depp seems little changed by time. His face remains boyish. And he still appears uncomfortable in the spotlight. He speaks in a low voice, and even when he laughs, and his eyes light up in a manner suggesting a love of mischief, his tone remains cautious, his body language reserved.

Depp never wanted to be a movie star. Acting gigs, early on, were just day jobs, taken for rent money, while he tried to get a deal for his band. Depp's looks make his success in Hollywood seem inevitable. Yet there was no obvious predictor for Depp to enjoy the specific type of success he's pulled off. It's a great story: Former teen idol rebels against the Hollywood star system and transforms himself into one of the most daring and eccentric screen actors of his generation.

Early on, it seemed as if Depp had a knack for picking smart, offbeat projects. For his first major starring role, in the 1990 John Waters juvenile-delinquent spoof Cry-Baby, Depp mocked his heartthrob status by playing an over-the-top version of one. Since then, he has generally played outsiders: Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Hunter S. Thompson alter ego Raoul Duke.

More recently, Depp has proved that he can pick potentially awful films and, with the sheer oddity of his performances, make them not only watchable but sometimes great. There was Robert Rodriguez's Once Upon a Time in Mexico, a cartoonishly violent El Mariachi retread redeemed by Depp's sly, hilarious turn as a corrupt, oft-disguised CIA agent. There was also last year's entirely unnecessary Tim Burton remake of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, again made sort of awesome by Depp, who played Willy Wonka with a creepy vacancy that recalled another glove-wearing lover of children. ("Michael Jackson never entered my brain," Depp insists. "I was thinking more of Howard Hughes, or Brian Wilson when he installed a sandbox in his house.")

And most impressively there was Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, a Jerry Bruckheimer summer 2003 blockbuster based on a ride at Disneyland. There was no good reason for this film not to suck. And yet, Depp, giddily channeling Keith Richards, stole the movie from romantic leads Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley and conquered all skeptics with a brilliant, swaggering performance. The film went on to gross $653 million, and this summer's follow-up -- amazingly, Depp's first-ever sequel -- has already been anointed a box-office sure thing. Depp has reportedly earned $20 million apiece for the two Pirates sequels.

"Somebody asked me the other day how this character is different from others Johnny has played," Verbinski says. "He's always played against type ? that's been his thing, the way he's escaped being typecast as a good-looking leading man. He's always Bud Cort, never Clint Eastwood. There's always an internalization, where he's standing back and watching things. But with Jack Sparrow, he's a guy who's a braggart, who makes the big speech, who can go with the grain. And so you get this virtuoso performance."

These days, Depp and his family -- his longtime companion, the French actress and singer Vanessa Paradis, 33, and their two children, Lily-Rose, 7, and Jack, 4 -- continue to divide their time between the South of France and Los Angeles, though they've been mainly living in L.A. since February 2005, when filming of the second Pirates movie began. Pirates of the Caribbean III, due out next year, will begin filming in August, with a promised appearance by Richards himself, already nicely recovered, thank you, after falling out of a coconut tree in Fiji and undergoing surgery for a head injury. Says Depp, "I didn't have to talk him into it. I said, 'It's up to you, but I think we could have a ball.'"

Have you been in touch with Keith?
Not directly, but with his camp. He's fine. He's . . .

Indestructible?
Yeah. A piece of machinery.

Have you known him for a while?
We met probably in '94 or '95. Obviously, for anyone who ever touched a guitar, Keith is one of your gods.

Have you played music around him?
No. I don't have the kind of hair that would allow me to pick up a guitar and start strumming. I've never been that confident -- or drunk. I just couldn't do it. Unless he asked me to. Then maybe.

I'm wondering what you thought when you heard the pitch for "Pirates." Because in theory it sounds like a terrible idea.
Theoretically, you're right. It has all the markings of a nightmare.

So what made you take the chance?
Absolutely nothing, just gut instinct. I was in a meeting with Disney. They had offered me this other film, and I was turning it down. But my daughter, she was about three then, and I'd watched every single animated Disney hoo-ha that existed. I'd gotten quite close to these movies and enjoyed the fact that these cartoon characters were without limits. So I was telling them how much I'd like to do a voice for a kiddie film, and they said, "Are you familiar with the theme park and rides? Well, we're thinking of doing Pirates of the Caribbean as a film." And I said, "I'm in." Just like that, immediately. My agent was sitting there, and she was really shocked. I was a little shocked myself.

It seems like an unusual move for you, because you've chosen such nonmainstream movies over the years.
I don't know why I said yes. I didn't think, "I must do a commercial movie." I've never been the guy who can predict, "This F**ker's going to go through the roof" or "This one will take a giant dump." And up until halfway through round nine, everyone, including Disney, was thinking, "This is going to be a huge flop." Later, when they were telling me I had to approve my image on cereal boxes, I still never felt compromised. It wasn't like selling out to me. It was like I had infiltrated the enemy camp and stuck my flag in, and now it's taken root and you're on the ride, so let's see where it goes. Friends of mine were going, "Jesus, man, isn't that a little mortifying?" And I said, "F**k, no! I think it's great. It's funny to me."

Did you have a special affinity for pirates?
Well, I picked up all kinds of books to prepare. Research is at least half the fun. It's like studying for a history exam. The nutrition onboard those ships, that was a real eye-opener. They'd eat by candlelight, below deck, and be so sickened by the food that they'd blow out the candles so they didn't have to see the maggots. Pirate ships were kind of floating prisons, really. I started getting into that whole era, beyond just pirates.

Did you use specific things you learned in playing Jack Sparrow?
One moment where a bit of my research came in unbelievably handy, we were shooting the last frames of Pirates I, and we were trying to come up with a closing line. None of us were happy with what we had. The line needed to mean a lot to Jack. And I remembered a passage from a book I read by a French sailor, where he talked about the idea of why you keep going as a sailor: It's because the horizon is always there. You want to get to it, but you never will. It's all about the unattainable.

What was the final line?
[Thinks for a moment, then speaks in Captain Jack's voice] "Now bring on that horizon." It said it all for me.

When people talk about your portrayal of Jack Sparrow, they generally mention Keith but also point out a certain gay undercurrent.
Well, there was a great book I read. . . . What was it called? Sodomy and the Pirate Tradition. A very interesting book. I wasn't exactly going for that with the character. And Keith is not flamboyant in his actions. Keith is pretty stealth. But with Jack, it was more that I liked the idea of being ambiguous, of taking this character and making everything a little bit . . . questionable. Because women were thought to be bad luck on ships. And these pirates would go out for years at a time. So, you know, there is a possibility that one thing might lead to another.

Could happen.
You're lonely. You have an extra ration of rum. [Shrugs] "Cabin boy!"

The second time we meet, Depp is not dressed like a pirate. This afternoon, he is wearing a white undershirt tucked into gray tweed slacks hiked a tad too high (in the style of certain retirement-age Italian gentlemen), a gray fedora clamped over his stringy dark hair. The gold teeth remain; Depp tired of removing them and so had them bonded onto his own teeth for the duration of the shoot.

We're back at the Chateau, but this time in a bungalow, sitting near a sliding door that opens into our own private yard. It's a gorgeous summer day, and the bungalow looks magnificent, as if it hasn't been architecturally modified since the Fifties. Depp suspects it might be the very bungalow where John Belushi died. He loves the history and lore of L.A. "There are places in old Hollywood that are just amazing," he says, gazing outside with a longing expression.

Before meeting the stunning Paradis in 1998, Depp dated a string of starlets and models (including Sherilyn Fenn, Winona Ryder and Kate Moss). Back when he co-owned the West Hollywood club the Viper Room, his drinking buddies included famously dissolute rock stars (Gibby Haynes of the Butthole Surfers, Pogues frontman Shane MacGowan). And he's always sought out older, similarly unconventional mentor figures, befriending the likes of Richards, Allen Ginsberg, Marlon Brando and, of course, Hunter S. Thompson, whom Depp will portray once again in the upcoming film The Rum Diary. It's an adaptation of Thompson's first novel, detailing his stint as a reporter in Puerto Rico in the late Fifties. The film has been fast-tracked now that another Depp production, Shantaram, has stalled. Based on an autobiographical novel by Gregory David Roberts that Depp fell in love with, the film will chronicle a junkie's odyssey from prison to the slums of Bombay. Australian director Peter Weir had been attached to the project, but Depp was unhappy with Weir's vision, which, in Depp's opinion, strayed too far from the book. Weir is out; the search is on for a new director.

For "The Rum Diary," have you thought much about how you'll approach the role, since you've played Hunter before, but during a much different period of his life?
Hunter was always Hunter. I don't think I need to cover the territory I covered in Fear and Loathing, but this character is definitely related to that guy.

I was surprised to hear that an early possible cast for "Fear and Loathing" -- way early, in the Seventies -- was Jack Nicholson in the Hunter role and Marlon Brando as Dr. Gonzo.
Oh, really? I tell you what, I'd have watched that movie. I'd still be watching it. Nonstop. God, that would have been amazing. You know, it's always funny coming here to the Chateau. This is where Hunter would stay, every time he came to town. Room 59. He was about the best friend you could have, really. He was a great friend.

Toward the end, were you aware of his depression and what he was going through?
I was only aware that he had moments, like all of us. He'd call and he'd sound kind of shitty and then you'd talk, and he'd say, "F**k, we have things to do now, this is going to be good." We'd end on a positive note.

Were you surprised by his suicide?
I was and I wasn't. I was horrified, but the way he went about it was absolutely consistent. He was never going to be the guy that collapsed in his soup bowl. That's not Hunter's legacy. In that way, there was a kind of symmetry. It somehow made sense for him. I went along on his book tour for The Proud Highway. He had dubbed me his road manager and head of security. He'd introduce me to people as "Ray." And they would be like, "It's Johnny Depp." And he would say, "No, his name is Ray."

Did you try and disguise the way you looked?
No, it seemed pointless. But during that tour, in San Francisco his back went out on him. He was just a mess, really in such physical pain. You could see how hard it was for him to cope with that. We were in that hotel room for five days, just me and him.

What was that like?
It was great in a lot of ways. It was like living in one of his books. You were a character. But it was hard seeing him in pain, because he was like a Robert Mitchum type -- a big, tough, masculine Southern gentleman. But even then, as low as he was feeling, we had a ball. He'd make fun of it, and then work through it. But I guess at a certain point . . . I don't know what happens. He hit that moment. I still think about him every single day -- at least two or three times a day.

People who hear about you and Hunter hanging out in a hotel room for five days will assume you were doing lots of drugs.
It wasn't the case at all. I never made the mistake that a lot of people used to make around Hunter, which was "Let's get high with Hunter Thompson!" Hunter would tell them, "Hey, don't do this because I do it. You're gonna F**k up." And they did. When I was with him, I never ventured into that arena. Number one, I didn't like it. I'd just drink my wine, or whatever.

You've talked about doing drugs as a teen-ager. What has your relationship with drugs been over the course of your life?
When I was a kid in South Florida, drugs were around. My parents went through a nasty divorce, and that was just the direction I went in for a while. I wouldn't say it was excessive, I'd say that it was self-medicating. It never had anything to do with fun for me. Neither did drinking, back then.

Do you miss France when you're here?
The only thing about France that's very different for me is that the phone rings less. I don't ever have to think about movies. Where we live, our little place, it's very simple, so you think about matters at hand.

Dinner?
Dinner, playing with the kids. What's the weather like. Check the garden. Go wander.

People seemed to make a big deal about you moving to France. It was portrayed as this kind of F**k-you to America.
Purely because it's better copy than just saying, "He has a place there, his kids were born there, he hangs out there." It's much better copy to say, "He's abandoned the United States! He's an expatriate!" The truth was less interesting.

Did meeting Vanessa make you think about living there?
Even before I met Vanessa, I always loved Europe. It's a very agreeable culture, the quality of life. Not so uptight.

When you're in L.A., do you get nostalgic for your wilder days?
I didn't go out as much as people think. When I do get a sliver of melancholy, it always brings me back to the early days, living in a tiny studio apartment off Hollywood Boulevard and not having a dime. And just wandering. There was so much more time. I'd spend hours in old bookstores. I get nostalgic for those days. Maybe it's the anonymity. Or innocence. Because they weren't exactly great days.

Do you and Vanessa ever give each other advice on performances?
We rarely talk about work or movies. She's always so supportive, so kind about my work. And she's incapable of bullshitting me. Which is kind of great.

What do you do after you finish a movie?
I used to just get on the train.

Like an Amtrak train?
Yeah. If I was in L.A., I'd just go north to San Francisco or Seattle. Just to get through that period. It can be depressing, at times.

Marlon Brando was a mentor to you. Would you guys ever talk about acting?
Once, he said to me, "How many movies do you do a year?" I said, "Last year, I think I did three." And he said, "Don't do too many." I said, "Why is that?" He said, "Because we only have so many faces in our pockets."

Toward the end, when Brando spoke about his craft, he was very dismissive.
He just didn't see the big deal, really. Here's a guy who had been called a genius since 1947. And I think he was just infinitely more interested in truth.

Could you ever see yourself becoming disillusioned about acting in that way?
No. I mean, I was a little bitter, coming up the ranks. It just didn't make sense to me. I was in an arena that I hadn't really made a choice to be in. And they turned me into this product and everything snowballed, and I couldn't do anything about it. And the natural reaction, for me, was to rail against it. So I was a bit angry for a period of time. But now, no. It's a great job. I've had really bad jobs in my life. And this is a good one.

(From RS 1004/1005, July 13-27, 2006)

[Molly]

Анна
Эта статья. Только у нас ее обозвали "Море волнуется два"

Русского текста в электронном виде у меня нет. Да я бы и постеснялась его сюда выкладывать из-за некоторых слов b выражений. Вообще статья так себе, я лично ничего нового не узнала. Фотографии хорошие, ради них стоит купить журнал

[Настя]

Ох, очень хотелось бы прочитать это интервью на русском....

[Анна]

Купила я этот RS. Здорово они статью причесали в русском варианте! Не ожидала.
Прочла без отвращения.

[Настя]

Анна
Не можешь на форуме интервью выложить? В моём городе этот журнал, похоже, вообще не продают...

[Infatuated]

Фотография на обложке RS мне абсолютно не нравится, зачем разглаживать такое замечательное лицо

[eLiza]

Infatuated
К сожалению, так часто делают. Помню, в одном из журналов коца 80-х годов (а он тогда вообще был молодой) Джонни убрали под глазами мимические морщины, отчего он стал не похож на себя самого (могу даже фотку показать).

[Настя]

eLiza
Давай!!!!

[eLiza]

Вот.


А вот такие у Джонни были глаза в оригинале...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/sha...%20Camp/3-2.jpg

И вот еще как его лицо отшлифовывали на фотосессии Роберта Максвелла. Ужасно.

[Gvennol]

eLiza
Максвелл ещё ничего, хотя тоже лучше бы оставили как есть... Но вот первая!!! УРОДЫ!!!

[LiNiDoLLa]

eLiza
Он на этой первой фотографии как будто проснулся только что... Какой ужас... Конечно в некоторых отдельных случаях есть смысл что-то делать, но должна быть хоть капля проффесионализма и чувство меры...

[Настя]

Не знаю, с чего вдруг, но у меня не открывается ни одна фотография. Не увидела я всего этого кошмара.

[Shiko]

Вышел свежий "Ролинг Стоун" с интервью.

[infiel]

Well, there was a great book I read. . . . What was it called? Sodomy and the Pirate Tradition. A very interesting book.

А такая книжка в натуре есть

[Настя]

Attention!

Журналы за август 2006
Joy - трогательное интервью с Джонни + его фотография на всю страницу!
Кино парк - яркие и сочные фотки с разных премьер ПКМ2 и немного текста
In style - маленькая фотка Джонни и статья про места отдыха звёзд. (Зато целых 5 страниц посвящены Кире )
На всех трёх журналах на обложке опять же Кира! Так что найдёте легко!

[Elena]

Мопсик

Спасибооооооо!!

[Infatuated]

eLiza

К сожалению, так часто делают.

Знаю, просто меня это каждый раз расстраивает! Неужели они, наивные, полагают, что могут сделать Джонни лучше, чем он есть?=)

[eLiza]

маленькая фотка Джонни (Зато целых 5 страниц посвящены Кире

Символично! Особенно в свете последних обсуждений.

[Анна]

Мопсик

На всех трёх журналах на обложке опять же Кира!

Что и требовалось доказать. Елки-палки, международный заговор денежных мешков с целью продвижения мисс Найтли на вершину кино-шоу-бизнеса.
Только насильно мил не будешь.

[Настя]

Анна
Да это кошмар какой-то. Куда не глянешь - на всех августовских журналах Кира! Это же просто неприлично! И везде заголовки примерного содержания: "Я всего в жизни добиваюсь сама!" Ну-ну.

[eLiza]

Мопсик

Я всего в жизни добиваюсь сама!"

Ну, она правда всего добивается сама, она молодец. Так что с этим не поспоришь.

[Настя]

eLiza
Нет, это да, но там всё-таки как-то не так написано...Как-то более гордо что ли. Не помню. Я щас не могу журналы достать, я их тайно от мамы купила

[eLiza]

Мопсик

Как-то более гордо что ли.

Более нескромно, ты имеешь в виду!

[The GoddeSS]

А в JOY, кажется, на обложке (где Кира, естественно), написано что-то типа "Я мечтаю поцеловаться с Джонни Деппом" или нечто подобное. Ну-ну...

[eLiza]

The GoddeSS
Да это все враки. В таких журналах и про Джонни чего только не начитаешься.

[The GoddeSS]

eLiza

Это точно=) И как я уже, по-моему, говорила, когда вижу что-нибудь, что совершенно точно не соответствует действительности, мне становится жаль, что многие и очень многие прочитают и примут все за чистую монету. Ну всякие цитаты типа, с кем кто мечтал поцеловаться - это мелочи, конечно, но бывает "вранье" и посерьезней

[Elena]

А в JOY, кажется, на обложке (где Кира, естественно), написано что-то типа "Я мечтаю поцеловаться с Джонни Деппом" или нечто подобное. Ну-ну...

Каждый раз, когда я вижу в журнале статью про Киру, я ожидаю там прочитать что-то типа этого...